Fighting for our freedom of choice

[A DRAGON]

Thank you all for your points and views.  I had to wait until now just to take the time to read it.  I agree once again with the new reno240sx  and team Gorgonzola. 

You have to remember Obama started with a huge depth he inherited  from the previous administration. When Clinton left we didn't have all the depth the big "W" put us in. Then we got blind sited by his non-action and tax cuts that only benefited 3% of the people.

I'll consider a political adult page. If we can keep it to a discussion.  Most forums don't even allow it.  We'll have to see.

[jlavallee]

Thank you all for your points and views.  I had to wait until now just to take the time to read it.  I agree once again with the new reno240sx  and team Gorgonzola. 

You have to remember Obama started with a huge depth he inherited  from the previous administration. When Clinton left we didn't have all the depth the big "W" put us in. Then we got blind sited by his non-action and tax cuts that only benefited 3% of the people.

I'll consider a political adult page. If we can keep it to a discussion.  Most forums don't even allow it.  We'll have to see.

Bush was a f-up no doubt but those numbers are what OBAMA has spent. Now if he was even attempting to curb costs then you could argue but no matter how wild W was on spending, Obama increased it exponentially.

I guess it comes down to the old Margaret Thatcher saying of the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money. Look at Greece, or even California. You can't spend that way at home and you can't do it in government. That is why none of these clown ever ran sucessful businesses, they are out of touch with reality.

Again, I still want to know what gives you the right to force your belief of wealth redistribution on me? Is that what we're going to make America about? I'm not even wealthy but I'd at least like the option. The wealthy who do it legally I admire instead of vilify.

[A DRAGON]

Thank you all for your points and views.  I had to wait until now just to take the time to read it.  I agree once again with the new reno240sx  and team Gorgonzola. 

You have to remember Obama started with a huge depth he inherited  from the previous administration. When Clinton left we didn't have all the depth the big "W" put us in. Then we got blind sited by his non-action and tax cuts that only benefited 3% of the people.

I'll consider a political adult page. If we can keep it to a discussion.  Most forums don't even allow it.  We'll have to see.

Bush was a f-up no doubt but those numbers are what OBAMA has spent. Now if he was even attempting to curb costs then you could argue but no matter how wild W was on spending, Obama increased it exponentially.

I guess it comes down to the old Margaret Thatcher saying of the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money. Look at Greece, or even California. You can't spend that way at home and you can't do it in government. That is why none of these clown ever ran sucessful businesses, they are out of touch with reality.

Again, I still want to know what gives you the right to force your belief of wealth redistribution on me? Is that what we're going to make America about? I'm not even wealthy but I'd at least like the option. The wealthy who do it legally I admire instead of vilify.

OMG!!! I can't believe you admitted that!!!! They'll pull your Nazi card for that.......I've seen it happen!!!!
You have just taken the first step in your recovery. WE are getting through to someone.   

[n10sive]

OMG!!! I can't believe you admitted that!!!! They'll pull your Nazi card for that.......I've seen it happen!!!!
You have just taken the first step in your recovery. WE are getting through to someone.  

Did you just call Jason and other Republicans Nazi's?! WTF Jerome...that is a little harsh and WAY over the top.

This is just another reason why we shouldn't discuss politics on here.

edit: It has been explained to me that this is a running inside joke

[cobra23]

they can have my Nazi card when they pry it from my cold dead hands.....

J/K

LOL

[Grey Goat]

Children, children ... 

Can't we just all get along with each other? 

Repubs and Dems and Teas, oh my! 

What's next, a religious section on this forum?

Jezzz, I'm still trying to figure out how to remove the stock OEM training wheels from my scooter, so I can install some new sticky high-performance aftermarket outriggers   

[jlavallee]

Thank you all for your points and views.  I had to wait until now just to take the time to read it.  I agree once again with the new reno240sx  and team Gorgonzola. 

You have to remember Obama started with a huge depth he inherited  from the previous administration. When Clinton left we didn't have all the depth the big "W" put us in. Then we got blind sited by his non-action and tax cuts that only benefited 3% of the people.

I'll consider a political adult page. If we can keep it to a discussion.  Most forums don't even allow it.  We'll have to see.

Bush was a f-up no doubt but those numbers are what OBAMA has spent. Now if he was even attempting to curb costs then you could argue but no matter how wild W was on spending, Obama increased it exponentially.

I guess it comes down to the old Margaret Thatcher saying of the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money. Look at Greece, or even California. You can't spend that way at home and you can't do it in government. That is why none of these clown ever ran sucessful businesses, they are out of touch with reality.

Again, I still want to know what gives you the right to force your belief of wealth redistribution on me? Is that what we're going to make America about? I'm not even wealthy but I'd at least like the option. The wealthy who do it legally I admire instead of vilify.

OMG!!! I can't believe you admitted that!!!! They'll pull your Nazi card for that.......I've seen it happen!!!!
You have just taken the first step in your recovery. WE are getting through to someone.   

If you'd ever listened to me instead of drinking the Obama kool aid you'd know I thought Bush should have been impeached too for the Patriot Act. Of course, as stupid as he was, he has nothing on the mess that is Obama. Hell, Obama is actually making Carter look like less of a turd and I didn't think that was possible. If I had a choice of who to be rid of, I'd choose Obama over Ghandi. At least most people outside Germany understood Ghandi was evil. Obama is the dangerious kind. Get your goosestep on J.

[edmunsan]

What about SB 435 how about that? I hope Shadow's efforts make a diffefence on the bill. I bought a street bike that does not need any mod's BMW R 1200 RT. My track bike however has Arrow Titanium system and its get's loud 6k to red line. As far as politics are concerned I vote then shut up. Way too many commertials in media. I dont have time for it. It's like having a FOR RENT SIGN on your forehead, anger is used to keep you glued.

[cobra23]

they can have my Salamander card when they pry it from my cold dead hands.....

J/K

LOL

Censorship!!

Priceless!!

[n10sive]

Censorship!!

Priceless!!

It's the first thing that happens once you start a political forum...that and suspensions and banishment's.

Salamander though? I thought the new 'word' was suppose to be Ghandi?

[Adiggity]

It's the first thing that happens once you start a political forum...that and suspensions and banishment's.

Salamander though? I thought the new 'word' was suppose to be Ghandi?

They are two different words. Read your pm's.  

[jlavallee]

We're all adults. If it is in a Political section and you can't take the heat, don't read.

We could discuss the vote buying left with their $250 medicare checks that are being sent. Democrats are like crack dealers to the poor. Get them hooked on free money and use them.

BTW, yeah, we've so jackkkkkkkkked this thread. Yet another reason.

[Team Gorgonzola]

Salamander?? .... Jason, what did Gandhi ever do to warrant such ill feelings toward him!!?? Look, when the Republicans are in power they force their view on the Democrats and the contrary is also true, nothing new here. The different between the two parties is: the Republican will go as far as starting a war to fill their friends pockets (Halliburton, Bechtel, ammo, weapons you name it) of course, oil was a major deal as well,  and the Democrats will spend to no end to equalize society.

[cobra23]

No pm's to me.

You all sort this out, I mean that in the most respectful way.

Politics can ruin fun.

I stood by my views.....22 years worth, 1 of those years on the streets (I do mean "streets"............as I am Infantry) of Baghdad.

You will find most of the people involved with that mission are quiet about it, and support it.

Good luck.

Ted

[n10sive]

We're all adults. If it is in a Political section and you can't take the heat, don't read.

We could discuss the vote buying left with their $250 medicare checks that are being sent. Democrats are like crack dealers to the poor. Get them hooked on free money and use them.

BTW, yeah, we've so jackkkkkkkkked this thread. Yet another reason.

As a veteran of the BARF Kitchen Sink, you could say NOTHING that I haven't already heard and discussed there. Want to have nice discussions with a bunch of liberals who think you are devil's spawn? Go to BARF (BayAreaRidersForum.com) and have fun. There are THOUSANDS of Obama fans over there that can make your head explode LOL

As Cobra said though, this type of talk ruins the fun and I think that would be a big distraction on this site right now.

BUT....if you are looking for local fun, go play poker at Eric's house